Tudor Black Bay VS Rolex Submariner [Comparison Review]

Tudor Black Bay VS Rolex Submariner

When it comes to luxury dive watches, Rolex has been at the top of the game due to the legendary Submariner watch. The Rolex Submariner is a watch that needs no introduction. For instance, it’s a top-rated dive watch both in mechanical and aesthetic aspects. Personally, the Submariner is a top 5 watch. However, in today’s Tudor Black Bay Vs Rolex Submariner comparison, a challenger is poised to give the Submariner a run for its money.

Although Tudor is Rolex’s subsidiary brand, it’s not widely considered to be an alternative to Rolex – at least in the past. Times have changed and tables have been turned. With Tudor’s return to the U.S. market, it has made some of the most impressive timepieces that nicely complements its parent company, Rolex. Certainly, one of the best Tudor watches has got to be the Tudor Heritage Black Bay.

For this Tudor Black Bay VS Rolex Submariner head-to-head, we take a look at these two amazing timepieces and hopefully help you answer the question, “should I get a Rolex or Tudor?”

Tudor Black Bay VS Rolex Submariner: At a Glance

For this timepiece comparison, we’ll pit the Rolex Submariner ref. 114060 with the Tudor Heritage Black Bay ref. 79230. Let’s first take a quick look at the specs of both watches:

Model:

Tudor Heritage Black Bay

Rolex Submariner

Reference #:

m79230n-0009

114060

Model case:

41 mm steel case with polished and satin finish

Oyster, 40 mm, Oystersteel

Dial:

Black with pink index, domed

Black

Material:

Steel

Oystersteel

Bezel:

Steel unidirectional rotatable bezel with disc in matt black anodised aluminium

Unidirectional rotatable 60-minute graduated, scratch-resistant Cerachrom insert in ceramic, numerals and graduations coated in platinum

Winding crown:

Screw-down steel winding crown, with the TUDOR rose engraved and black-lacquered, with black anodised aluminium winding crown tube

Screw-down, Triplock triple waterproofness system

Crystal:

Domed sapphire crystal

Scratch-resistant sapphire

Water Resistance:

200 m (660 ft)

300 meters / 1,000 feet

Movement:

Self-winding mechanical movement with bidirectional rotor system

Perpetual, mechanical, self-winding

Caliber:

Manufacture Calibre MT5602 (COSC)

3130, Manufacture Rolex

Functions:

Hours, minutes, seconds; 4Hz frequency, Unidirectional rotating bezel, COSC-certified automatic movement

Centre hour, minute and seconds hands. Stop-seconds for precise time setting

Oscillator:

Paramagnetic blue Parachrom hairspring

Power reserve:

70 hours

48 hours

Bracelet:

Steel riveted bracelet / Aged leather / Fabric strap

Oystersteel

Clasp:

Folding buckle and safety clasp

Folding Oysterlock safety clasp with Rolex Glidelock extension system

Tudor Black Bay VS Rolex Submariner: The Comparison

Size and Design

Based on the specs, the Tudor Heritage Black Bay is bigger both in diameter and height. The 1 millimeter difference in size may not sound like much but once you have both watches on your wrist, you’ll see a considerable difference. If you have a smaller wrist, the difference in size becomes a lot more pronounced. Also, the extra thickness of the Tudor makes it taller than the Submariner. The taller case sides allow the Black Bay to sit closer to the wrist. For the size, I think both watches fairly similar. It’s all down to your personal preference.

When looking at the design, it’s obvious that there’s a shared heritage between the Submariner and Black Bay. The Submariner features a buttoned-down approach to design while the Black Bay has a more laid-back feel. If the Rolex Submariner was designed by men in lab coats, the Tudor Black Bay was designed by bearded men in no-socks boots. The Black Bay feels more relaxed and filled with nostalgic details. A good example of this is Tudor’s gilt dial, the splash of red on the bezel, and the riveted bracelet.

On the flip side, the main thing that goes for the Rolex Submariner is the word “Rolex” itself. The tighter hand stack, more complex ridges, and better finish are just some of the more superior design elements of the Sub. The details on the Rolex are also leagues ahead when compared to the Tudor. It’s a legendary design for a reason.

Build Quality and Construction

When it comes to the build quality, the Submariner and Black Bay don’t disappoint. However, the Sub boasts some finer details and a slightly nicer finish if you care to look. Considering the cost difference between these two watches, it’s not a surprise that the Submariner comes out on top in terms of build quality. Having said that, both watches have excellent quality.

Both watches feel solid and robust, and there’s no rattling or components that are off. Try rotating the bezels from both watches and you’ll never get the impression that it’s made of cheap plastic.

The major difference between the two is the purpose for which these watches are built. The Black Bay is a Tudor Heritage model which means that it uses traditional parts. For instance, the Black Bay makes use of a matte black dial in comparison to the Sub’s ceramic dial.

Another major difference is that the Submariner uses a ceramic insert while the Black Bay has an aluminum bezel insert which is less durable and resistant to scratches. The Tudor’s case looks to be inspired by the vintage dive watches of old while Rolex has abandoned that case design many years ago.

Movement and Timekeeping

Rolex 3130 Movement

The movement is where most of the price difference comes from. The Submariner uses the “No Date” Rolex caliber 3130 which is, of course, an in-house movement. The 3130 movement boasts 48 hours of power reserve, a frequency of 28,800 beats per hour, and a track record of long-term durability. The movement is fitted with a Parachrom hairspring for added durability and it becomes resistant against magnetic fields.

Tudor Caliber MT5602

On the other hand, the 2016 model of the Black Bay comes with a caliber MT5602 which is a COSC certified movement. The MT5602 movement offers an impressive 70 hours power reserve which is almost a day of power compared to the Sub’s power reserve. It’s worth noting that this is the first run of the Black Bay that runs on an in-house movement, not a modified ETA movement like with the previous models.

In terms of accuracy, the Submariner clearly has the upper hand with the unprecedented -2/+2 second per day accuracy. Conversely, the Black Bay’s accuracy comes down to a respectable -4 and +6 seconds per day. At the end of the day, the layman can’t probably tell the difference but purists will likely choose the Submariner.

Comfort and Wearability

The Submariner comes with the signature solid link Oyster bracelet and it’s a strong case for the “if it ain’t broke” mantra. It’s the mainstay of the Rolex brand and it’s definitely one of the best elements of the Submariner. Furthermore, the Oysterlock clasp prevents any accidental opening and the Glidelock system enables you to adjust the watch without tools. This is an important feature for divers who are wearing the Sub over their diving suit.

On the other hand, we have the Tudor Black Bay which boasts an array of bracelet/strap options. I got the riveted stainless steel bracelet model for this review and it’s fitted with folding buckle and safety clasp. The bracelet is actually a redesign of the old Tudor bracelets from the 1950s to 1960s. The riveted bracelet does have a memorable design which adds a lot of personality to the piece.

The key difference between the two bracelets is in the clasp which also affects the overall difference in wearability and comfort. Although the two claps work in virtually the same way, the Submariner’s clasp features a micro-adjust system which is the aforementioned Glidelock system. Making adjustments with the Rolex Submariner 114060 is far easier when compared to the Black Bay since the latter needs an adjustment tool.

Pricing

The pricing is obviously an important factor when deciding between the Tudor Black Bay VS Rolex Submariner. Firstly, when you look at the retail price for both watches, you’ll see that the Submariner more or less costs double the Black Bay. Secondly, as a subsidiary brand of Rolex, it’s no surprise that the Tudor Black Bay is much less expensive when compared to the Sub. So if you’re going for the price alone, the Tudor Black Bay is a solid luxury watch.

However, once you look past the actual price, you’ll see that there’s merit to choosing the Submariner over the Black Bay – I’m referring to the resale value. For instance, if you take a glance at the secondhand market, you’ll notice that the Black Bay decreases in value whereas, the Submariner is sold higher than the retail price. If you’re planning to resale the watch down the line, the Submariner is the clear winner.

Overall, collectors who are looking for a dive watch but can’t quite splurge for a Rolex, the Tudor Black Bay is more than a viable alternative. Alternatively, the venerable Submariner is a legendary timepiece with a rich history, so it’s hard to go wrong with a Sub especially for first-time collectors.

Tudor Black Bay VS Rolex Submariner: The Verdict

Tudor Black Bay VS Rolex Submariner

In this Tudor Black Bay Vs Rolex Submariner comparison, both watches are fairly similar with some key differences. However, there’s no doubt that both of these watches are excellent in their own right. This is one of the many reasons why people are stuck with the Black Bay vs Submariner dilemma.

Ultimately, the main deciding factor for choosing between the two is the price point. The Submariner is almost $8,000 which is within the price expectation for a Rolex. The Submariner commands respect with its build quality and near-flawless design. Overall, it really is one of the most beautiful watches ever made and it’s worth the price tag.

On the other hand, we have the Black Bay which costs less than half of the Submariner. Also, the Tudor goes for a faux vintage vibe but it’s decidedly the more playful and relaxed timepiece, for instance. If you’re into a more youthful and fun watch that’s not going to break the bank, the Tudor Heritage Black Bay gets my highest recommendation.

Rolex Submariner Two Tone Blue Review [Submariner Date ref. 116613LB]

Rolex is a brand-name that’s synonymous with success. And as far as luxury watches go, there are only a few timepieces that can match the sheer recognizability of the Rolex Submariner. The Submariner is the paragon of iconic and timeless design.

If you’re a regular reader of this blog, you’ll know that I’m the biggest fan of the Submariner.

For today’s review, we’ll be taking a look at the Rolex Submariner Two Tone Blue aka the Submariner Date ref. 116613LB. This Submariner is a luxurious version of the Rolex’s dive watch line. Gold is generally reserved for formal dress watches but this one is certainly an exception. Let’s get on with this Rolex Submariner Two Tone Blue review.

Rolex Submariner Two Tone Blue Review: At a Glance

As mentioned, this is the review for the Submariner Date ref. 116613LB. Let’s take a look at its specifications:

Model:

Rolex Submariner Date

Reference no.

116613LB

Model case:

Oyster, 40 mm, Oystersteel and yellow gold

Oyster architecture:

Monobloc middle case, screw-down case back and winding crown

Material:

Yellow Rolesor – combination of Oystersteel and 18 ct yellow gold

Bezel:

Unidirectional rotatable 60-minute graduated, scratch-resistant Cerachrom insert in ceramic, numerals and graduations coated in gold

Winding crown:

Screw-down, Triplock triple waterproofness system

Crystal:

Scratch-resistant sapphire, Cyclops lens over the date
Water-resistance:Waterproof to 300 metres / 1,000 feet

Movement:

Perpetual, mechanical, self-winding

Caliber:

3135, Manufacture Rolex

Precision:

-2/+2 sec/day, after casing

Winding:

Bidirectional self-winding via Perpetual rotor

Bracelet:

Oyster, flat three-piece links

Clasp:

Folding Oysterlock safety clasp with Rolex Glidelock extension system

Dial:

Blue

Certification:

Superlative Chronometer (COSC + Rolex certification after casing)

Functions:

Centre hour, minute and seconds hands. Instantaneous date with rapid setting. Stop-seconds for precise time setting

Rolex Submariner Two Tone Blue Review

First Impressions

In all honesty, the Rolex 116613LB is not at all on my radar. In general, I’m not very fond of two-toned watches and the Rolex 116613LB looks to me like a bastardization of the iconic black dial Sub. Since then, I’ve been proven wrong.

I had the opportunity to acquire the Rolex Submariner 116613LB and I told myself, “why not?” As a classic Submariner fan, I feel like it’s my obligation to give this timepiece a chance and give it a review.

Of course, the two-tone blue color of the watch is the first thing you’ll notice about it. The 40mm case diameter feels just right and the integration of the watch’s Supercase adds a great deal of wrist presence. Much like the original Submariner, this two-tone blue Rolex succeeds in having a go-anywhere design aesthetic.

Based on the pictures, I previously thought the Rolex 116613LB looks way too flashy. Spending more time on it, I am more than happy to be proven wrong. The Submariner Date 116613LB neither looks too flashy or too utilitarian. Thanks to Rolex’s skillful blending of colors, the Rolex 116613LB can be worn for formal and casual occasions. This is the type of watch that you can wear with a broad spectrum of styles.

So if you have an aversion towards two-toned watches, the Rolex 116613LB might just change your mind. As far as first impressions go, it’s so far, so good.

Design

The first blue Submariner (ref. 16613) was a departure from the iconic black dial of the original. And yet, the Blue Sub became an instant hit for luxury watch collectors. While the black dial was replaced with the blue sunburst one, it still retained its timeless design. I think Rolex did a good job of combining flair and workmanlike with the two-tone blue Submariner.

The exquisite yellow gold next to the rugged 904L stainless steel is a combination that Rolex has gotten right over the years – thanks to the Rolesor name that they coined in the 30s. In terms of design, the Submariner Date 116613LB is an even better version of the two-tone blue Sub with plenty of enhancements.

This new blue Sub kept the age-old 40mm case dimensions which I feel is just right for regular wear. However, it does come with a Supercase which gives the watch a well-muscled look. I have to say, the screen presence of the watch is off the charts. I guess Rolex has succumbed to the large watch trends but doesn’t want to compromise the overall look of the iconic watch.

On top of its beefed-up case, the 116613LB also started using the heavy-duty Cerachrom bezel and a Maxi dial with thicker hands and hour markers. The blue sunburst dial adds a great deal to the sophisticated feel of the watch and even gives off some interesting patterns under certain lighting conditions. Visibility is also not an issue due to the gold-rimmed luminous hour markers and lumen-filled hands. The Cyclops lens is of course here and provides a great view of the date window.

Construction and Wearability

The case of the 116613LB is exactly what you can expect from a high-end luxury dive watch. The Cerachrom ceramic blue bezel doesn’t just look great but it also retains the timeless charm of the original black dial Sub.

As mentioned, the case measures 40mm in diameter and has a thickness of 12.75mm. However, the case actually slims down around the edges which enable the center to sink into the wrist. This subtle construction detail makes a huge difference in wearability especially when it comes to daily wear.

Many avid collectors refer to the case as the “Super Case” which I can agree with.

This version of the submariner is still a diver’s best friend as it features a waterproof rating of 300 meters / 1000 feet which makes is a capable dive watch. Like the original Submariner, this dive watch uses a screw down crown with Rolex’s Triplock locking crown. This means that nothing gets past the watch when underwater. Now, I doubt many people will wear this watch for diving but it’s nice to know that it’s a reliable diving tool.

Furthermore, the bracelet also received a much-needed upgrade. The iconic Oyster bracelet has received a fair bit of modernization. The earlier versions of the Rolesor bracelet were not received well due to durability issues.

Fortunately, the solid end and center links of this watch feel solid and sturdy. The over-engineered Glidelock clasp is also here and does a great job of providing a superior fit. Rolex’s patented extension system also allows you to make quick 2mm changes to the bracelet.

Timekeeping

At the heart of the Rolex Submariner Date ref. 116613LB beats the in-house Rolex Caliber 3135 movement.

 

Rolex Submariner Two Tone Blue Review 3135 Movement

This movement was introduced back in the late 80s and features a higher beat rate of 28,800 bph and even comes with an auto-changing date feature. The power clocks in at a standard 48-hour power reserve and is fitted with the Paramagnetic blue Parachrom hairspring for added durability.

It’s worth noting that the Rolex Caliber 3135 movement is also used for the Rolex Submariner and Rolex Sea Dweller. With that said, the 3135 movement is an absolute workhorse and many experts consider it as one of the most successful movements Rolex has produced.

The movement features 31 jewels and a date aperture that automatically changes itself at midnight. On top of that, the 3135 movement includes other interesting features such as the glucydur balance wheel and the extremely efficient Perpetual winding system.

Furthermore, the 3135 movement is not just mechanically advanced but it’s built to last as well. The movement is fitted with KIF system for shock protection which brings the much-needed durability and impact resistance.

Overall, the Rolex Caliber 3135 movement is one of the best watch movements out there, and you’ll be happy to have it with your Rolex Submariner Date.

Pricing

One of the main things that differentiate the Rolex Submariner Date ref. 116613LB from the other Submariner models is the price.

As mentioned, the Submariner Date ref. 116613LB is the luxury, upscaled version of the Rolex Submariner. Thus, the price of the 116613LB is more or less 1.5 times more expensive than the Regular Submariner and even the Submariner Date.

In general, two-toned Rolex models are more expensive than single-colored ones. Of course, the main culprit for the higher price of the 116613LB is the use of yellow gold for the bracelet center link and the accents. With that said, the Rolex Submariner Date Two-Tone Blue retails at about $14k. However, this is by far, not the most expensive model in the collection. The pure 18 ct gold Submariner Date models (blue and black dial) are more than twice as expensive as the 116613LB.

So for this Rolex Submariner Two Tone Blue review, you’re probably asking, “is it worth the price?” Well, it really depends on how deep you are in to watch collecting. In all honesty, the 116613LB is not exactly entry-level, so this one is hard to recommend for beginners.

However, if you’re simply looking to add more to your Rolex collection, it’s hard to go wrong with this two-tone blue beauty. It’s the more affordable model as far as two-tone Rolex watches go.

Should You Get the Rolex Submariner Two Tone Blue Ref. 116613LB?

So what’s the verdict for this Rolex Submariner Two Tone Blue review?

The Rolex Submariner Date 116613LB is certainly a great take on an iconic dive watch. It’s a nearly perfect version of the venerable Sub that perfectly balances utilitarian toughness and timeless design. Whether you’re going to a formal event or a casual gathering, you’ll have no problem wearing this piece.

The biggest hurdle of this watch is the price. If you’re expecting to pay for a regular Sub or even the Submariner Date, you’ll be sorely disappointed. This is a 5-digit purchase which makes it a tough recommendation for beginners.

Overall, the Rolex Submariner Date 116613LB is a worthy addition to any luxury watch collection.

Omega Speedmaster vs Rolex Submariner [Comparison Review]

Omega Speedmaster vs Rolex Submariner Review

When it comes to brands of luxury watches, Rolex and Omega are two of the top contenders. For many watch collectors, choosing their first luxury timepiece usually boils down to Rolex and Omega. In this case, most people are usually faced with the Omega Speedmaster vs Rolex Submariner dilemma.

The Omega Speedmaster vs Rolex Submariner is a debate that’s certainly one for the ages. Time and time again, many watch enthusiasts asked which is the best luxury timepiece between the two. It’s rather perplexing since they don’t even belong in the same category.

Today, we will be comparing the Submariner and Speedmaster. Let’s get to it.

Omega Speedmaster vs Rolex Submariner: At a Glance

For this head to head comparison, we’ll take a look at the Omega Speedmaster Professional Chronograph (reference 311.30.42.30.01.005) and the Rolex Submariner (reference 114060).

Here are the specs for both watches:

Model:Omega Speedmaster Professional ChronographRolex Submariner
Reference #:311.30.42.30.01.005114060
Model case:Steel, 42 mmOyster, 40 mm, Oystersteel
Dial color:BlackBlack
Material:SteelOystersteel
Bezel:Fixed Tachymeter ScaleUnidirectional rotatable 60-minute graduated, scratch-resistant Cerachrom insert in ceramic, numerals and graduations coated in platinum
Winding crown:Pull / Push crownScrew-down, Triplock triple waterproofness system
Crystal:Hesalite crystalScratch-resistant sapphire, Cyclops lens over the date
Water Resistance:5 bar (50 metres / 167 feet)300 meters / 1,000 feet
Movement:Manual windingPerpetual, mechanical, self-winding
Caliber:Caliber Omega 18613130, Manufacture Rolex
Functions:Chronograph, Hour, Tachymeter, Small Seconds Sub-Dial at 9 O’ClockCentre hour, minute and seconds hands. Instantaneous date with rapid setting. Stop-seconds for precise time setting
Oscillator:Paramagnetic blue Parachrom hairspring
Power reserve:48 hours48 hours
Bracelet:Silver-ton stainless steelOystersteel
Clasp:DeploymentFolding Oysterlock safety clasp with Rolex Glidelock extension system

Size Comparison

One of the main reasons why the Speedmaster and Submariner are often compared with each other, despite not even competing for the same category, is the size.

True enough, the size is similar between the two watches. The Speedmaster has a 42 mm case while the Submariner has a 40 mm case. Although the case diameter of Speedmaster is 2mm bigger than Submariner, the lug-to-lug difference is only 1mm. Thus, as far as on-wrist appearance goes, both watches will look very similar on your wrist.

The 20mm lug width is a given standard for medium-sized models which is true for both Omega and Rolex. However, most people prefer their 22mm lug watches, so the 20mm lug size is a fairly common complaint against both Speedmaster and Submariner.

Overall, the main difference between the Speedmaster and Submariner is the thickness of the case. Omega’s timepiece comes with a 14.3mm thickness, thicker than most watches including the Submariner. The thickness is attributed to the Speedmaster’s Hesalite crystal which definitely adds to the bulk.

With that said, both Speedmaster and Submariner are very similar in size with some key differences.

Design

This category is one of the hardest ones to decide on because frankly, both the Omega Speedmaster and Rolex Submariner are two of the best-looking watches out there. Both watches feature robust and timeless designs.

If you are an avid reader of WatchIdeas, you’ll know that I am a big fan of the Rolex Submariner. It’s my first luxury dive watch and it’s my go-to if I can’t decide which piece to wear. It’s hard to go wrong with Submariner’s classic black dial, making it a very recognizable timepiece. The Submariner features the beloved dive watch look with the hardware to boot.

On the other hand, we have the Omega Speedmaster with its lunar inspired design. Referred to as the Moonwatch, this iconic piece was worn on the moon. It features a classic chronograph look that makes the watch very versatile. Indeed, you can either dress up or down with the Speedmaster.

Both watches feature a black dial but with some key differences. The Submariner’s dial has this sunburst look that glistens when exposed to sunlight. On the flip side, the Speedmaster comes with a matte and grainy dial that tends to soak up light.

At the end of the day, both watches are a masterclass in watch design. For pure looks alone, it’s no wonder that many people are indecisive about these two luxury watches.

Bezel

The bezels on these watches are different in many ways, especially with the material used and the displayed information.

The Rolex Submariner features the heavy-duty Cerachrom (ceramic) bezel insert. This gives the Submariner its legendary durability and excellent scratch resistance. Unfortunately, the bezel is quite prone to shatter. On the bezel, you can see the 60 minutes graduation. It’s also worth noting that the bezel has unidirectional rotation.

On the other hand, the Speedmaster comes with a stainless steel and anodized aluminum bezel. As you can see, the Speedmaster is the less refined between these two watches, at least as far as bezels go. However, the bezel is surprisingly slim especially when the face is much larger than it is. The 500 unit tachymeter is a nice touch but not many users are taking advantage of this feature. Fortunately, the bezel’s pushers have a ‘satisfying’ click to them which I’m a big fan of.

Bracelet / Strap

The Sub and Speedy share a few similarities when it comes to their bracelets. For instance, both watches feature screwed-down links, 20mm width, and the same length. The Sub, however, has slightly curved downward links that help with comfort. On the Omega, the links are straight flat.

The Sub’s Oystersteel bracelet delivers in terms of comfort, fit, and adjustability. The Submariner’s iconic bracelet is here and it will serve you well for a long time. However, when it comes to pure versatility, the Speedmaster has the upper hand.

The Speedmaster bracelet’s strength is that it offers plenty of customization options. Swapping bracelets for the Speedy is a cinch. Therefore, if you want to dress up, you can simply use the stainless steel bracelet. For less dressier and sporty events, the Speedmaster package also includes a NATO strap. Frankly, it’s one of the best NATO straps I’ve used, and that’s saying a lot.

Timekeeping

Perhaps one of the biggest differences between the Submariner and Speedmaster is the movement. Let me start by saying that both watches feature solid timekeeping features and movements. However, one comes with an in-house movement and the other does not.

Rolex 3130 Movement
Rolex 3130 Movement

First, the Sub is powered by the venerable 3130 movement. This movement is your standard 3-hand automatic movement (hours, minutes, and seconds). I’ve had my Sub for as long as I can remember and I’ve yet to experience any issue with timekeeping. Of course, the movement is “Contrôle officiel Suisse des Chronomètres” (COSC) certified with -+2 sec/day precision. It’s a solid and reliable movement and there’s not much to say about it.

Omega 1861 Movement
Omega Speedmaster Professional

On the other corner, the Speedmaster is fitted with Omega’s caliber 1861. It’s a manual winding movement that has its fair share of charm. The 1861 movement is essentially the downgraded version of the caliber 1863, and contains a plastic piece. Since it’s a hand-wound movement, you have to manually wind the watch which can be a chore for some people.

Overall, both the Speedy and Sub keep time very well. These pieces are the cream of the crop when it comes to luxury timekeeping. If you’re more into in-house movements, the Rolex Submariner has the advantage. Alternatively, if you want a classic movement with a storied history, the Speedmaster’s movement is highly recommended.

Pricing and Value

Another big difference between the Speedmaster and Submariner is the price.

The Submariner is the pricier watch and it’s about 40% more expensive than Omega’s Moonwatch. That is if you can even manage to get the Submariner at market price. In reality, the Rolex Submariner is often sold out and authorized dealers put a significant mark-up to the price.

If budget is an issue, then the Omega Speedmaster is the obvious choice here – that is if we’re talking about pure pricing alone. However, when you talk about resell value, it’s not as straightforward as it seems.

For resale value, the Submariner wins hands down. If you buy a Submariner now, especially with this reference number, you can trust that its selling price will only increase in value. Unfortunately, the same can’t be said with the Speedmaster. Despite the rich history of the Speedy, you can easily get it for retail price or at least very close to it.

To sum it up, the Speedmaster is your best bet if you’re in a budget. The amount of watch that you can get for the price is simply staggering. However, if you care about the resell value of the watch, the Submariner is the obvious choice.

Omega Speedmaster vs Rolex Submariner: The Verdict

Omega Speedmaster vs Rolex Submariner Review

Both the Speedmaster and Submariner are both stellar timepieces that you can probably wear forever. They are not at all similar watches except for the size, they’re not even in the same category. However, the Omega Speedmaster vs Rolex Submariner debate is a popular one for good reason.

If you want a less expensive model, the Speedmaster is a hard one to pass. In comparison, the Submariner is nearly twice as expensive. However, the Submariner boasts better resell and many of its elements are leagues better than the Speedmaster.

All in all, it’s hard to go wrong with either watch and I would heartily recommend them to newcomers in watch collecting.

Rolex Sea Dweller 16600 Review: A Timeless Diving Tool

Rolex Sea Dweller 16600 Review

The Rolex Submariner is perhaps one of my most favorite watches of all time. As a dive watch, it can’t go toe-to-toe with the most advanced dive models but it gets the job done and in no way an inadequate dive companion.

When the Rolex Sea-Dweller was released back in the late 1960s, the Swiss watch company has a single-minded mission in mind: to reach deeper depths than the Submariner and survive anything underwater. Again, the Submariner was not seen to have flaws, so the release of the Sea-Dweller is more for the extension of the former’s diving utility.

Today, we have an in-depth (pun intended) Rolex Sea Dweller 16600 review for you.

Rolex Sea Dweller 16600 Review: At a Glance

With a water-resistance that can go to thousands of meters underwater, the Rolex Sea-Dweller is a niche offering and is geared towards saturation divers. Let’s first take a look at the key specs and features of the Rolex Sea Dweller 16600.

Model:

Rolex Sea-Dweller

Reference no.

16600

Model case:

Stainless steel w/ helium escape valve (40mm) w/ rotatable timing bezel

Oyster architecture:

Monobloc middle case, screw-down case back and winding crown

Material:

Oystersteel

Bezel:

Unidirectional rotatable 60-minute graduated, scratch-resistant Cerachrom insert in ceramic, numerals and graduations coated in platinum

Winding crown:

Screw-down, Twinlock double waterproofness system

Crystal:

Scratch-resistant sapphire
Water-resistance:Waterproof to 1,220 m (4,000 ft)

Movement:

Perpetual, mechanical, self-winding

Caliber:

3135, Manufacture Rolex

Precision:

-2/+2 sec/day, after casing

Winding:

Bidirectional self-winding via Perpetual rotor

Bracelet:

Stainless steel Oyster bracelet, original Rolex

Clasp:

Stainless steel fold-over clasp with divers extension, original Rolex

Dial:

Black w/ luminous hands and hour markers

Certification:

Superlative Chronometer (COSC + Rolex certification after casing)

Reviewing the Rolex Sea Dweller 16600

First Impression

Just to be clear, the Rolex Sea-Dweller 16600 is by no means a new Rolex model. In fact, its production run ended by 2008 and it became a well-sought model as the newer Sea-Dweller was released. This is also the main reason why I’ve taken interest to this particular Sea-Dweller iteration.

As for my first impressions, I’ve quickly warmed up to the Sea-Dweller because it’s the long-lost sibling of the classic Submariner. The Submariner’s black dial design is so iconic and pleasant that the excitement came almost immediately after opening the box many years ago. With that said, the Sea-Dweller looks good and you won’t mind wearing it on a daily basis.

Right out of the box, you can tell that the Sea-Dweller 16600 is a professional tool that can take a beating. The package itself is quite special. The package includes the infamous Rolex anchor, extra dive suit links, the link changing tool for the bracelet, and a Buehlmann diving chart. It’s worth noting that the link-changing tool was exclusive to the Sea-Dweller.

One of the first things I noticed about the Sea-Dweller 16600 is the Helium escape valve (HEV) which is the signature feature of the Sea Dweller series. Other watch manufacturers have copied this system but it’s only Rolex that has done it with great success.

Design

As mentioned, the Sea Dweller 16600’s design is very similar to the Submariner, specifically to the 16610 model. They’re so similar that they might as well be the same watch. The Sea Dweller was designed for diving professionals that need a timepiece that could go a lot deeper and withstand the harshness of saturation diving.

The derivative design of the Sea Dweller is exactly why I enjoyed it the first time. The venerable black dial of the Sea Dweller is one of the main design highlights for me. The Submariner 16610 has knocked it out of the park design-wise. However, I still find myself longing for the 5513 or 14060 because of the no-date dial. The pure, clean lines are just a beauty to behold.

Fortunately, the Sea Dweller 16600 features the best of both worlds. The lack of the Cyclops lens seem a bit strange but I imagine that the lens isn’t that essential for saturation divers. The thicker, bulkier profile of the 16600 gives it an extra wrist presence.

Unfortunately, the Sea Dweller 16600 has stopped its production and its the last of the “old-style” Sea Dweller before the release of the DeepSea 116660. The design of the 16600 is just classic and timeless, but never outdated.

Construction and Wearability

Both the case and bracelet of the 16600 is made of 904L stainless steel. It doesn’t get any simple than this but still delivers in functionality. While the Sea Dweller isn’t the most popular series by Rolex, it featured some innovative construction designs.

Deep sea divers use a helium/oxygen mix in their tanks when going for a dive. Helium pressure can penetrate the crystal of the watch and can accumulate pressure due to decompression. Early deep sea divers literally saw the crystals get blown out of their watches. Rolex has addressed this issue by adding a helium escape valve into the Sea Dweller. This mechanism lets out the helium pressure once it reaches a critical point.

Along with this deep-sea diving innovation, Rolex added more to the depth rating of the watch. This timepiece features a waterproof rating of 1,220 meters (4,000 ft) which should be more than enough for most professional divers. The addition of the Triplock crown adds another layer of water resistance.

As I’ve mentioned earlier, the Sea Dweller has an extra thickness and weight to it. While it does have a significant wrist presence, it’s noticeably heavier as well. With that said, wearing the Sea Dweller 16600 isn’t exactly comfortable. This is clearly designed to be a tool watch, so it’s not something that you’ll want to wear daily.

Similar to the Submariner, the 16600 also features the dive suit extension link in the Oyster bracelet clap. This allows divers to adjust the size of the bracelet to make way for the suit.

Timekeeping

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You can’t call this a Rolex Sea Dweller 16600 review without talking about its timekeeping capabilities.

At the heart of the Sea Dweller 16600 is the caliber 3135 self-winding movement. For some history, the movement was first introduced in 1988 and it quickly became the main workhorse of the Rolex brand. This venerable movement has been used to power Rolex classics like the Datejust and Submariner Date. Many experts believe that the 3135 is one of the best movements made by Rolex.

The 3135 is a high-beat movement with an oscillation at 28,800 beats per hour (BPH). The movement is based on 31 jewels and comes with a date aperture that immediately changes at exactly midnight. As far as accuracy goes, the 3135 movement is legendary for its accuracy. As expected, the 3135 is also COSC certified. Based on my experience, I didn’t have any accuracy issues with the 16600.

The quality of timekeeping is exactly what you can expect from a Rolex timepiece. There’s really nothing to complain about here.

Pricing

Because the production for the Rolex Sea Dweller 16600 has ceased, you can’t buy this piece anymore, at least not officially from Rolex. Due to the limited nature of the 16600’s availability, expect to pay a little bit higher for a used model. For reference, the Sea Dweller 126600 can be yours for around $11,000.

At this point, the Sea Dweller 16600 has become a well-sought piece for Rolex collectors. When this model was released, it was available for the $4400 retail price tag. These days, you’d be lucky to find a 16600 that doesn’t command a price of below $6000.

With that said, the Sea Dweller 16600 is a definite collector’s item and strikes a good balance between quality and value. The thing I enjoy the most about the 16600 is that it feels like a proper sequel to the Submariner 16610. From the design to overall utility of the watch, I am happy to have gotten the 16600 even at a fairly inflated price.

If you are looking to get the classic-looking Sea Dweller, the best time to act is now. There’s no telling if the price will continue to skyrocket.

Should You Get the Rolex Sea Dweller 16600?

Rolex Sea Dweller 16600 Review

So what’s our verdict for this Rolex Sea Dweller 16600 review?

While the Rolex Sea Dweller 16600 has made a strong first impression, it rarely makes my weekly rotation. However, that’s just me having too many watches to wear. For what it’s worth, the Sea Dweller 16600 is a strong showing for Rolex. It features a timeless, clean design that you can wear almost anywhere at any time. The watch itself is a bit on the bulkier side, so there were some compromises in terms of comfort.

If you are looking for a true dive watch for deep-sea diving, you are probably better off getting a dive computer. But that’s not saying that the Sea Dweller 16600 is not a proper dive watch because it’s actually an amazing one. Its depth rating is very impressive and there are some great dive-related innovations that remains relevant up to this day.

However, the lack of availability means that you’ll be spending more than you have to and you still get a used piece.

Overall, the Sea Dweller 16600 is a hardcore Rolex for the hardcore deep-divers. Yes, the newer version is even more hardcore but visually, I think the 16600 is the superior choice here. I am in no way a diver but there’s a lot to love here even for non-dive watch fans.

Rolex GMT vs Submariner: A Showdown of Two Very Similar Rolexes

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When it comes to Rolex luxury sports watches, the Rolex GMT and Submariner are two of the most well-known models from Rolex’s lineup.

Many friends and loved ones have asked me about which Rolex timepieces to buy and many inquiries are about the Rolex GMT vs Submariner. At first glance, it’s easy to think that the GMT Master and Submariner is basically the same watch.

However, the devil is always in the details.

So for today’s head-to-head comparison, we are taking a closer look at the Rolex Submariner and the Rolex GMT Master II, and how they stack up against each other.

Rolex GMT vs Submariner: Specs Comparison

For this head-to-head comparison, we’ll review the Rolex GMT Master II reference 116710 and the Rolex Submariner reference 116610.

But first, let us take a look at the key specs for both the GMT Master II and Submariner.

Model:Rolex GMT Master IIRolex Submariner
Reference #:116710116610
Model case:Oyster, 40 mm, OystersteelOyster, 40 mm, Oystersteel
Dial color:BlackBlack
Oyster architecture:Monobloc middle case, screw-down case back and winding crownMonobloc middle case, screw-down case back and winding crown
Material:OystersteelOystersteel
Bezel:Bidirectional rotatable 24-hour graduated bezel. Two-colour brown and black Cerachrom insert in ceramic, engraved numerals and graduationsUnidirectional rotatable 60-minute graduated, scratch-resistant Cerachrom insert in ceramic, numerals and graduations coated in platinum
Winding crown:Screw-down, Triplock triple waterproofness systemScrew-down, Triplock triple waterproofness system
Crystal:Scratch-resistant sapphire, Cyclops lens over the dateScratch-resistant sapphire, Cyclops lens over the date
Water Resistance:100 meters / 330 feet300 meters / 1,000 feet
Movement:Perpetual, mechanical, self-windingPerpetual, mechanical, self-winding
Caliber:3285, Manufacture Rolex3135, Manufacture Rolex
Functions:Centre hour, minute and seconds hands. 24-hour display. Second time zone with independent rapid-setting of the hour hand. Instantaneous date. Stop-seconds for precise time settingCentre hour, minute and seconds hands. Instantaneous date with rapid setting. Stop-seconds for precise time setting
Oscillator:Paramagnetic blue Parachrom hairspring
Power reserve:70 hours48 hours
Bracelet:Oyster, flat three-piece linksOystersteel
Clasp:Folding Oysterlock safety clasp with Easylink 5 mm comfort extension linkFolding Oysterlock safety clasp with Rolex Glidelock extension system

Rolex GMT vs Submariner: Head-to-Head Review

Design

In terms of design, no one will blame you if you think that both watches look very similar.

Both timepieces are housed in the 40mm diameter which is often referred to as the “super case.” The case features thicker lugs and crown guards which give off a bolder and chunkier appearance. Of course, both cases are done in 904L stainless steel (with the GMT receiving it a year later than the Submariner).

Both watches also come with the signature Oyster bracelet. However, the style of clasp and the polish are done differently on each of the watches. If you look closely, the GMT Master II bracelet’s center link features a high-gloss polish while the Submariner received a brushed satin finish for its bracelet.

Being a dive watch, Submariner gets the folding Oysterlock safety clasp with the proprietary Glidelock extension system. On the other hand, the GMT’s Oyster bracelet comes with a simple folding Oysterlock safety clasp with the Easylink 5 mm comfort extension link.

The bezel design is one of the key differences between the GMT Master II and Submariner. The Submariner is fitted with a 60-minute scale bezel which is used as a dive timer. On the flip side, the GMT Master features a 24-hour bezel for use in combination with the GMT hand.

Other models of the GMT also adds a splash of color which makes it more interesting for more people. I particularly enjoy the GMT model with the iconic Pepsi bezel. The Submariner has retained its iconic black dial over the years. However, the Submariner does have other color options like the vibrant green “The Hulk” Submariner.

Movement

Aside from a number of cosmetic differences, one of the most major differences between the GMT Master II and Submariner are their movements.

Rolex 3135 Movement

The reference 116610 Submariner is powered by the venerable Caliber 3135 movement which remained unchanged since 1988. The Caliber 3135 is a standard 3-hand automatic movement (hours, minutes, and seconds) with a date complication. Nothing much to say here but it’s a workhorse movement that gets the job done.

Rolex 3186 Movement

On the other hand, the reference 116710 GMT-Master II is fitted with the in-house Caliber 3186 movement. It also comes with a date complication and the hour hand can be adjusted independently. Like with all GMT Master models, the GMT Master II has a 4th GMT hand. This allows you to adjust the hour hand separately from the GMT hand.

As a result, GMT owners can simultaneously reference three time zones when used in combination with the watch’s rotating 24-hour bezel.

Both movements are COSC certified and run at +/- 2 seconds per day. In addition, both movements are equipped with Parachrom Bleu hairspring which protects the movement from magnetic fields and shocks. It’s also worth noting that the aesthetic of both movements is also fairly similar.

The power reserve of the GMT is far superior to the Submariner. The former boasts a 70-hour power reserve while the latter offers 48 hours of power reserve. This should not be an issue for most people but should you go on a weekend without wearing a watch, the difference in power reserve should show itself.

Functionality

When it comes to buying Rolex watches, you’re not really looking at your options with functionality in mind. As you can see, both the GMT and Submariner have their own uses.

However, just how do they stack up when it comes to day to day use?

For overall functionality, I reckon that the GMT Master II has the upper hand over the Submariner. The GMT function is just so robust and flexible that I can see myself using it more in daily life. From timing something while on the kitchen to deciding whether it’s time to call a loved one from another country, the GMT Master II can handle these tasks with little to no problem.

Sure, a smartphone is good enough for such tasks but there’s just something satisfying about looking down on your wrist to tell the time. With that said, jet-lagged travelers and jet-setters will have a lot to love about the GMT functions of the GMT Master II.

As for the Rolex Submariner, I can also time things but that’s about it. If I am a professional diver or someone who’s always near the water, the possibilities for the Submariner certainly do open up. After all, the Sub can handle depths to 300 meters. The Submariner’s water-resistance does add a great deal of ruggedness to the watch.

But alas, I’ll never come close to 300 meters of depth which means that the Submariner’s greatest asset is now moot. However, you really can’t underestimate the ruggedness and reliability of the Submariner for everyday use.

This feels like I’m grasping for straws here but the GMT Master II certainly has the upper hand when it comes to pure timepiece functionality.

Pricing

Looking at the price of the Submariner Date and the GMT Master II, they are about in the same price range. The GMT Master II is the pricier between the two but the price difference won’t be much of an issue – at least to an avid Rolex collector.

However, if the budget is tight and every dollar matters, the Submariner Date is the no-brainer option. It might be the less expensive watch between the two, it’s certainly not the inferior model. You will be getting your hands on a legendary timepiece that’s literally timeless. If you want, you may even opt for the more affordable standard Rolex Submariner, if you think you won’t miss the date aperture.

There’s more watch here than you can shake a stick at.

However, for pure functionality alone, the Rolex GMT Master II is hands down the better value for the money. This is especially true if you are always traveling abroad or simply want a watch with a GMT feature.

Rolex GMT vs Submariner: The Verdict

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This concludes our Rolex GMT vs Submariner head-to-head review, so what’s the verdict?

From the design to the specs and features, you could swear that the Rolex GMT Master II and Rolex Submariner are essentially the same watch. However, as you can see, there are numerous key differences that set apart one from the other.

If you are giving me the choice between the Rolex Submariner or GMT Master II, I’ll have to give it to the GMT. Give me the Pepsi-bezeled GMT and all bets are off.

Don’t get me wrong though.

If you are an avid reader of WatchIdeas, you’ll know that I am the biggest fan of the Submariner. However, in this particular head-to-head comparison, the GMT edges out the black-dialed Rolex classic.

It is just that I think I’ll be able to use the GMT Master II in the spirit it was intended when compared to the Submariner. There’s just more watch that the GMT can offer more than the Sub. However, when it comes to the price, it’s really hard to go wrong with the Submariner and you won’t be missing much.

If you’re someone who’s having this conundrum, I’d say that it’s a good problem to have – but it’s also a very tricky choice. One has a GMT feature and a more complex movement while the other offers superior water resistance and ruggedness.

It’s really up to you to decide where you think your money is worth.

Sea Dweller vs Submariner: A Rolex Luxury Dive Watch Skirmish

Sea Dweller vs Submariner

If you are in the market for the best dive watches, you have your work cut out for you. When it comes to diving watches, it’s hard to go wrong with a Rolex. However, even when you decide to go for a Rolex dive watch, you’re not out of the woods yet. Many people find themselves choosing between the Rolex Sea Dweller vs Submariner.

Today, we’re going to pit the legendary Rolex Submariner against its brother from another mother, the Rolex Sea Dweller.

Both Rolexes are exceptional timepieces that are designed for aquatic activities. If you’re asking which one I prefer, I have to give it to the Submariner. It’s a legendary dive watch for a reason and I can wear the Submariner in just about every possible occasion.

When you’re stuck between a Submariner and Sea Dweller, it’s really a good problem to have. Let’s dive right in, pun intended.

Rolex Sea Dweller Review

 

As of this writing, Rolex has already announced the Sea Dweller 126603 which is the shiny, new 2019 version – basically the “luxe” version of Rolex’s middle durability dive watch.

However, for this review, we’re going to take a look at the Rolex Sea Dweller reference 116600. The Sea Dweller is well considered a true diving tool for professional divers. After all, it’s a dive watch that can go a whopping 4,000 feet underwater.

Design

Between 2009 and 2014, Rolex didn’t release a 40mm version of the Sea Dweller. However, the Swiss luxury watch did release the 44mm Sea-Dweller Deep Sea which offered an insane water resistance rating of 12,800 feet. Despite the unmatched water resistance, many collectors felt that it’s too large at 44mm and yearned for a contemporary Sea Dweller that followed the original design.

Then the Sea Dweller 116600 came.

The Rolex Sea Dweller 116600 is 40mm in diameter and features a slight-domed crystal. Just like the original, the 116600 doesn’t have the “cyclops” feature that magnifies the date window at 3 o’clock. The watch also comes with a helium escape valve on the side of the case at 9 o’clock. This design feature helps with enhancing water resistance and expelling helium gas during a saturation dive.

The 116600 keeps up with Rolex’s modern lineup with the addition of Cerachrom bezel and a Gildelock clasp.

Just by the looks alone, it’s clear that the Sea Dweller shares many design elements with the Rolex Submariner. Although the basic design of the Sea Dweller is more than 60 years old, it still looks like a modern timepiece. One reason for this is the bezel. The ceramic insert is now more scratch-resistant when compared to the easily marred aluminum insert.

I have always been a fan of Submariner’s dial so it’s not surprising that the Sea Dweller’s dial is also a winner in my book. The matte finish dial is the stuff dreams are made of. Shame about the lack of magnifier for the date aperture.

Construction and Wearability

As mentioned, the Sea Dweller can handle depths to 4,000 feet essentially making it a tough timepiece for all sorts of conditions. Although many Rolex users are only willing to go as deep as the kitchen sink with their watches on, it’s still nice to know that you have such a heavy-duty watch.

The addition of the Rolex Oyster bracelet and Glidelock extension system are some of the most noteworthy upgrades to this iteration of the Sea Dweller. Adjustability becomes a non-issue since you can adjust the watch from 2mm for up to 20mm increments. Since this is a dive model, you can extend the bracelet up to 26mm to make way for dive suits.

As you might expect, the bracelet feels supple and comfortable on the wrist. The addition of the 904L steel protects the watch from corrosion. It also comes with a Triplock crown with five insulators for keeping moisture away.

With that said, the Sea Dweller is built like an absolute rock and probably one of the most durable watches I’ve owned.

Timekeeping

The Dweller is powered by Rolex’s venerable 3135 movement. It’s worth noting that it’s the same movement found in the 116610 Submariner Date. The movement features a power reserve of 48 hours and comes with a Parachrom hairspring and COSC certification.

On a side note, the newer Sea Dweller models (126603, 126600) have received a movement update with the inclusion of the 3235 movement.

As for the 3135 movement that comes with the Sea Dweller, it’s the most successful and widely-used movement by Rolex. It’s simply a robust, accurate, and reliable movement. The 3135 is a faultless movement and I have no problems with it.

Rolex Submariner Review

Going head-to-head with the Sea Dweller is the ever-popular dive watch Rolex Submariner. The Submariner is a classic dive watch through and through, and depending on what you choose to believe, it’s the original dive watch ever released.

However, I’m not about to go into this watch’s rich history. Many others have done it before me. For this timepiece highlight, we’ll go with the Rolex Submariner reference 114060.

Design

The Rolex Submariner 114060 is a watch that went through several redesigns. With just a couple of subtle changes, Rolex has created another watch that made a profound impact on the industry.

The design of the 114060 harkens back to the design of the original models. The lack of the date aperture can be a deal-breaker for some people but I personally like this design choice. This makes the Submariner very simple to operate and adds an iconic and classic design.

Plus, not everyone likes the cyclops magnifier found in the Submariner date.

The unidirectional bezel comes with a ceramic insert. In contrast, previous Submariner models are equipped with aluminum inserts. This is good because ceramic inserts tend to be more scratch-resistant than aluminum ones. The bezel engravings add a great deal of detail and texture to the watch.

Of course, you can’t talk about the Submariner without mentioning the iconic black dial. The Sub’s black dial is a personal favorite of mine and it’s all here in its full glory. All of the markers are fitted with an 18K white gold frame which looks stunning and oozing with elegance. Legibility is also on-point, thanks to the larger and Chromalight-infused indices.

Construction and Wearability

Everyone forgets that the Submariner is also a dive watch and can handle up to 300 meters or 1,000 feet depth rating. However, when it comes to water resistance rating, the Sea Dweller vs Submariner is a no-brainer since the former can go down to 4,000 feet.

It’s more like a casual dive watch than a dedicated diving tool.

The crown is fitted with the Triplock waterproofness system which prevents moisture from finding its way inside the case. The middle case is made from 904L corrosive resistant steel which is a standard fair for Rolex timepieces. Like a good wine, the stainless steel case becomes even more beautiful over time.

The solid-link Oyster bracelet is stellar as always and I have no complaints as far as comfort goes. The bracelet comes with the Oysterlock safety clasp and glidelock extension system which make adjusting a breeze. Since you can adjust the bracelet by 2mm increments without needing a specialized device, finding a great fit is all too easy.

Timekeeping

Rolex 3130 Movement

The Rolex Submariner 114060 is equipped with Rolex’s Calibre 3130. This self-winding movement is a straightforward, time-only timekeeping feature that’s purely functional but exquisitely designed. It features a 48-hour power reserve and it’s COSC certified.

It might be a rudimentary movement but it’s a timekeeping solution on which Rolex built its legendary reputation.

The 3130 movement won’t blow anyone’s mind but many collectors will surely appreciate its reliability and robustness. The Submariner will keep running despite the occasional bumps and knocks.

Side by Side Comparison

Here’s a side by side comparison of the Sea Dweller vs Submariner.

Model:Rolex SubmarinerRolex Sea Dweller
Series:Submariner CollectionSea-Dweller 4000
Reference #:114060116600
Case Material:OystersteelOystersteel
Dial Color:BlackBlack
Bracelet/Strap:Oyster, flat three-piece linksOyster, flat three-piece links
Clasp Type:Folding Oysterlock safety clasp with Rolex Glidelock extension systemFolding Oysterlock safety clasp with Rolex Glidelock extension system
Movement:Self-Winding 3130, Manufacture RolexSelf-Winding 3135, Manufacture Rolex
Bezel:Unidirectional rotatable 60-minute graduated, scratch-resistant Cerachrom insert in ceramic, numerals and graduations coated in platinumUnidirectional rotatable 60-minute graduated, scratch-resistant Cerachrom insert in ceramic
Crystal:Scratch Resistant SapphireScratch Resistant Sapphire
Water Resistance:300 meters / 1,000 feet4000 feet / 1220 meters
Case Diameter:40 mm40 mm
Case Thickness:13 mm14.8 mm

Sea Dweller vs Submariner: The Verdict

As you can see, the Sea Dweller and Submariner are obviously cut in the same cloth of superior Swiss craftsmanship. Both dive watches share a number of common features such as the Folding Oysterlock safety clasp, Triplock crown, 48-hour power reserve, and more.

However, there are also many key differences between the Sea Dweller 43 vs Submariner.

The Sea Dweller is like the Submariner but has been hitting the gym for quite some time. The former is a sportier and bulkier watch that focuses on pure utility. The 4,000 feet depth rating means that it’s the go-to piece for any serious divers. It’s a thicker piece than the Submariner but it has more elegant lugs. The Sea Dweller doesn’t have a mainstream appeal and that’s perfectly fine.

On the other hand, you have the Submariner which is possibly the most immediately identifiable timepiece ever made. The Submariner is available in many different sizes and models. Everything about the Submariner is just so well-done and it’s a highly-accessible watch. It’s no wonder that it’s the most popular introductory model to the Rolex brand. Plus, if budget is an issue, the Submariner is certainly the cheaper choice.

Choosing between the Sea Dweller vs Submariner is not the worst problem to have. This is one of those cases where it’s impossible to make the wrong choice. The choice depends on what you need from a luxury dive watch.

Rolex vs. Movado Brand Review

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When you hear someone say,”luxury watches,” what are the first brands that come to mind? Sorry to be the arrogant guy who answers for you, but I would say Rolex, Omega, Breitling and Hermes to name a few.  The name Movado is not usually considered in this list of luxury timepieces, and I agree that it should not be.

There was a time, however, long long ago, when Movado was a luxury brand. I can write an MLA formatted essay for my readers expressing my anger with the “new” style of Movado watches, but instead, I will be civil and give an honest review and compare the brand to a favorite of mine, Rolex. Long story short, I choose ANY Rolex over a Movado any time, day, location, state of mind etc… Rolex is one of those brands that dominate the realm of watches and craft amazing timepieces that make my statement sound. I will compare and contrast many top watches by each brand to give an honest and nonbias review (somewhat) of which brand is better. Hope you enjoy!

Dive Watches

Sports watches are a highly regarded market in the watch game. Particularly, dive watches. Rolex is known to create some of the worlds best dive watches, like the Sea Dweller and the famous Submariner.  Movado, is not as known for their dive watches, but they do create a couple, like the Series 800.

Rolex Submariner

A true beauty when it comes to dive watches, the Rolex Submariner is easily one of the top dive watches ever created. The design is classic and stylish, offering a flexible watch that can be worn in a business suit, or even a swimsuit.

Specs

Whether you opt for a vintage Submariner or one of the newer models, you are sure to be happy. For the sake of not confusing anyone with all different specs and designs, I will stick to one of the newest Submariner models, ref. 114060.

A beautiful oyster, stainless steel, 40mm case fits lovely with the bold, stainless steel bracelet. The scratch resistant crystal is a great addition and keeps the watch looking brand new.

A unidirectional, scratch resistant, ceramic bezel compliments the black dial to perfection.

A few factors that truly set this watch apart from many dive watches are the 300m water resistance and the fantastic 3130 swiss movements within each piece. The watch also has a long-lasting, blue luminescence, which definitely comes in handy if you are a professional diver.

Overall Review

The Submariner is a classic, that was released in 1953. Since then, Rolex continues to update the innovation and technology used in the Submariner and keeps the name going strong.

Movado Series 800 “Dive”

This is the closest when it comes to a dive watch for the Movado brand. The series 800 is definetly a good looking sports watch, but falls short when it comes to materials used.

Specs

With a 40mm stainless steel case, a durable sapphire crystal and up to 200m of water resistance; the Series 800 do seem like a great choice for a watch. And don’t take me the wrong way, this is not a bad watch. The design is classic and can be worn with anything. But this watch does not compete with the Submariner for a few reasons.

For one, the steel on this piece is nowhere near as polished and durable as the Submariner. The movement is a quartz on the Series 800, which I do not care for. Especially for a sports watch, where reliability is key. Although this watch is attractive and much cheaper than the Submariner, it is nowhere near as innovative and classic as the Submariner.

Rolex SubmarinerMovado Series 800 “Dive” 
Rolex Swiss 3130 MovementSwiss Quartz
Flat Sapphire CrystalSapphire Crystal
Stainless steel Oyster BraceletStainless steel Bracelet
40mm Case40mm Case
Unidirectional 60-minute Ceramic BezelUnidirectional Aluminum Bezel
2.5 Magnifying CyclopsNo Cyclops
Black dial w/ luminescent handsBlack dial w/ luminescent hands
300m water resistance200m water resistance

If you are not in the market for an “expensive” watch, the Rolex may not be a suitable choice, and you may opt for the Movado. But despite the price difference, the Submariner reigns supreme.

Luxury Watches

 

 

Now I will review the Muesum models by Movado and compare them to the classic Datejust timepieces by Rolex. This is not really the best comparison, but the closest when it comes to luxury desgins.

Rolex Datejust

The Datejust is a classic model by Rolex, that comes in many sizes colors and materials. Featured above is reference number 16233, a handsome and vintage watch to release from Rolex.

Specs

What really makes Datejusts great is their luxury design and high-quality materials. The 18k yellow gold bezel and the yellow gold and stainless steel jubilee bracelet give the watch a fancy and “expensive” look. In my opinion (not just because I own many Datejusts), Datejust watches are the most luxurious timepieces made by Rolex.

The case is a great size, 36mm. Today, watches are being made with larger faces, and some people prefer them. I, actually disagree, a smaller case means easier wear with dress clothes, it looks good on smaller wrists (like mine). A scratch-resistant sapphire crystal is added for extra durability, as well as an expertly crafted, screw down crown. This is so water can not enter the dial. The dial on this piece is a dark black and just is a beautiful pairing.

And of course, the Datejust is equipped with a high-grade automatic, self-winding movement.  No matter how much Rolex perfects their movements each year, the older movements are still VERY accurate and are designed to perfection.

Movado Museum

This is a watch that had to be added to this review. The museum models by Movado are by far the best sellers.

I could not think of a watch by Movado to compare to the Datejust. So Museum is the closest that I could come up with. In NO way, does it compete with the Datejust.

Specs

At first glance, this is a very contemporary piece. In my opinion, it does not pull off the modern look as well as other similarly priced watches, like the Eone Bradley.

To truly review the Museum models by Movado, you can not compare them to Rolex. So within this subheading, I will give the overall pros and cons of Museum watches.

PROS
  • A sapphire crystal
  • 40mm case
  • Many choices to choose from (color wise)
  • Modern design (if you are into this type of look)
  • Moderate price

These qualities are some highlights of the Museum models. Many customer reviews that you can find on Amazon rate the museum watches well. These come from customers who do not want to spend much more on top quality Rolex’s. I do not disagree with this claim at all; but I do believe there are other CHEAPER and nicer watches out there that are more original and of better quality than Movado.

Cons
  • Swiss quartz movement ( this is a con to me, may not be to others)
  • Simplistic, boring design
  • Feels cheap when on the wrist, almost like a toy

If I can review the Museum model in one word, it would be overpriced. Although the model is “cheap” when compared to a Rolex, the quality still does not match the price. I say, spend more to get a higher quality that will last longer and keep you satisfied.

Overall

At the end of the day, when you are fishing for your wallet and ready to make an online purchase for a watch, opt for a Rolex. That is if you are choosing between a Rolex and a Movado.

If you are lucky enough to find a vintage Movado, then the choice is not as simple. The original watches by Movado were great and actually made of good quality and automatic movements. After the brand was sold, everything changed.

So unless you are truly in love with the design of Movado watches, I do not recommend them.

More affordable Rolex watches exist, like this Oyster Perpetual. You can also find deals on Amazon at times, where independent sellers are “getting rid” of their watches for insanely cheap prices!

You Decide

Now, do not let me be the ultimate decider in what watch you buy. I do undertand that some Rolex watches can be expensive, and therefore unattainable. If the design of Movado watches grabs your attention and looks great to you, GO AHEAD and buy one! There are plenty of happy customer reviews on Amazon that you can find. Many people even claim that the movements work fine and last for years! My review was strictly comparing the brand to Rolex, where, Movado simply does not compete.

Other Watches

There are definitely some other notable watches to mention by each brand. Since this is an overall review of each brand as a whole, I must add these other watches.

Rolex

Air King

The Air King is an excellent watch by Rolex that offers a simple, luxurious design with an extremely accurate movement.

Explorer

Rolex created the Explorer to offer a more affordable watch to those who want a Rolex. The design is just as simple as the air king, yet offers some great quality material.

GMT Master

GMT Master watches by Rolex look similar to Submariners but with added unique features. The watch feautred above is the, Batman model by Rolex. A true beauty.

Movado

SmartWatch

Probably the most interesting watch by Movado, the smartwatch. I saved this one for the end because it obviously cannot be compared to a Rolex. If you do opt to buy a Movado, I say get THE SMARTWATCH!  

Bold Thin

Why not add an ALL GOLD watch by Movado. You can always feel like you are in the song “All Gold Everything”   Definitely an interesting choice.

SE Pilot

Other than the Smartwatch, This would be another watch that I recommend by Movado. Although I still believe it is very overpriced, it has a pretty attractive design.

 

Rolex 16600 vs 16610 Review: Should I Purchase a Rolex Sea-Dweller or Submariner?

Rolex Sea Dweller vs Submariner

Time to dive into a Rolex faceoff, pun intended, featuring two of Rolex’s top dive watches. The Rolex Sea-Dweller model 16600 and the Rolex Submariner model 16610. There is no doubt that both of these are fantastic, expertly made watches. But which one is better? That’s what I am here to answer for you! Before we dive into specifics of each watch (getting old already), let’s go over a brief history of dive watches. Professional divers need watches to keep track of time while they are thousands of feet underwater. Hence, a need for watches that can take immense pressure under the sea. If a diver does not time their dive properly, things can get pretty ugly. So this created a market for watches that can be a reliable and life-saving device for divers all over. The original dive watch by Rolex is actually a Sea Dweller, made specifically for COMEX DiversThe market for dive watches has expanded exponentially since then.

Dive watches are no longer solely for divers. These watches have become a must-have for watch enthusiasts and business professionals. You need to own at least one to hold the title “watch collector.” That being said, these two watches we are discussing today are true classics in the dive watch game and items you should seriously think about purchasing if you are building a collection.

Rolex Sea-Dweller

Rolex Submariner

Rolex Sea-Dweller 16600Rolex Submariner 16610
Helium Escape ValveNo Helium Escape Valve
No cyclopsRolex Cyclops
Stainless steel braceletStainless steel bracelet
40mm case40mm case
Oyster lock claspOyster lock clasp
Aluminum Bezel insertAluminum Bezel insert
Black dial w/ luminescent handsBlack dial w/ luminescent hands
31 jewel, 3135 Calibre movement31 jewel, 3135 movement

The Functionality

Movement

If you are a diver, the functionality of a dive watch is DIRE. It can be a life or death situation. If you are not a diver, well, it still matters, if you’re buying a Rolex I assume you want a top notch watch. Both of these watches are very similar on the inside. Both feature a Rolex Calibre 3135 movement. No doubt, this is considered one of the best inner devices by Rolex. It is the most widely used movement in all Rolex timepieces. Just look at the complexity of this type of movement, it is insane! The caliber measures 28.50 mm in diameter and 6.00 mm in height, which is pretty large for a watch caliber. This allows the watch to perform extremely well and reliable with a frequency of 28.800 vph (vibrations per hour).  A higher vph means a smoother running timepiece! 

 

 

Diving depth

Again, important if you’re a diver, interesting fact if your not. The Sea-Dweller 16600 can reach depths of 4,000 feet. The Sea-Dwellers are the original dive watches for Rolex, so the diving depth was important on this one. In contrast, the Submariner 16610 can handle water resistance of only 1,000 feet. I personally am not a diver, so I will let leave this part on you!

Appearance

Now time for the important stuff, the look of the watches. At first glance, you may not be able to tell them apart. But any watch geek can pick out some major differentiators right away!

Rolex Sea-Dweller

Rolex Sea-Dweller 16600

Rolex created a great looking classic with this watch. The Sea-Dweller was the first watch to feature a Helium Escape Valve. Helium escape valves do exactly what they sound like they do. Release helium when at depths of 250 feet or greater. Besides that, it is just a unique looking addition to your watch. 

 

 

One main piece that the Sea Dweller lacks is the signature cyclops, which magnifies the date. Although this sets this watch apart from the rest and is actually a necessity for the diving depths,(the cyclops can crack, no good for divers) the Rolex brand is not the same without the cyclops in my opinion. What I do love about this watch is the size of the case. It is a 40mm, which is no longer in production. The Sea-Dwellers that are made today are much bulkier, at 43mm in diameter.

The newer model Rolex Sea-Dweller DeepSea  is very heavy and large; better fit for a wrist like Shaquille O’Neal.

Rolex Sea-Dweller

A PERFECT FIT

The Sea-Dweller 16600 is a perfect size and sits nice and comfortably on the wrist. Everything about the case on this watch is pristine. When looking at the face up close, the detail of everything is overwhelmingly noticeable. It is sad to hear when watch newbies compare this watch to a cheap Invicta. Why there may be some similarities from afar, there is no comparison to the detail of the Sea Dweller.  The Sea Dweller also features the sapphire crystal glass, an expensive, scratch proof glass that is a beautiful addition to the watch.

The band is pretty interesting on this one. It has the stainless steel Oyster Bracelet, like many other Rolex watches, but the flip lock clasp makes it more adored. Add the sturdy solid end link and you have a handsome and unique band. A solid end link makes it easier to fit on the wrist. This piece secures the watch in place and takes away the kinkiness that has your band twisting and shaking compared to the normal clasps.

Now let’s get to the dial. The Sea-Dweller has a Rolex black dial with illuminating markers. The black dial gives this watch the professional look and goes great with the black bezel insert. Black and silver create a look that is very professional. Make this a watch to wear with business attire.

Rolex did a great job keeping the Sea-Dweller a classic while adding some unique features as well. The lack of a cyclops is a bit unappealing to me, but it does make this watch unique. The overall look is clean and professional, I will rate it a 4/5 in appearance.

Rolex Submariner 16610

Not to be unfair to the Submariner, but there are a vast amount of similarities in appearance. I would be repeating myself with almost everything, so I will cut straight to the differences.

Rolex Submariner

For starters, the Submariner DOES come with the Rolex trademarked Cyclops. The classic Rolex look is exemplified when your date is standing out at 2.5 magnification. The Submariner does not have a helium release valve, oh darn it, so be wary of this if you are a diver. For looks though, the lack of a helium escape valve tarnishes the look of a dive watch. If you are not a diver and own a dive watch, wouldn’t it be neat to have a little piece that has a very important job? To better clarify, I am disappointed with the Submariner model skipping the helium escape. Add it with the Cyclops and the two would go great together!

Everything else about this watch is basically the same. 40mm case diameter, black dial with luminescent hands, stainless steel oyster band and scratch-resistant sapphire crystal. The Submariner is also expertly handcrafted like the Sea-Dweller and can be worn with similar attire. One thing to add, although the size is the same, for some reason the Submariner sits higher on the wrist and feels a bit bulkier. I like my watches to have a good weight, but not too much weight.

Overall, when it comes to appearance, I have to say I prefer the Submariner. The cyclops is the main reason behind this decision, I just can’t get over a lack of cyclops, that IS ROLEX. With that being said I’ll give the Submariner a 4.5/5.

Value

Besides the look of a watch, this may be the most important factor when deciding what watch to purchase. Now let it be noted that there is a difference between price and value. The prices vary for both of these watches and you can find different deals everywhere. Generally, I would say they are worth the prices you find online. When buying a Rolex be CAUTIOUS. There are many fakes out nowadays, so be sure you buy from a trusted site like Amazon.

I would say both watches are worth the price tag at the moment. Both are top grade beautiful watches by Rolex and once you own one of these watches you can treasure the time and effort put into building these fantastic watches. Overall, the winner for value goes to the Sea Dweller 16600. I chose the Sea Dweller for the best value for a few reasons.

The Sea-Dweller model 16600 is a pure classic. It is based on the original Comex model, yet features newer materials and technology. This watch is no longer in production, so it holds more sentimental value. Sub Mariners are continuing to be produced similarly to how they were for years. Only Sea-Dweller Deep Sea watches are made today, and like I mentioned earlier, they are not the same as the Sea-Dweller 16600. If you purchase the Sea-Dweller, keep this asset in good condition and hold onto it for many years. Do not be surprised if you begin to see the prices skyrocket for this vintage piece.

So Which Is The Winner?

Time for what everyone has been waiting for. Which watch takes the cake? This took a lot of thought to come up with, because like I said several times, both are OUTSTANDING watches. Without further ado, I give you the winner: The Sea-Dweller Model 16600. It may not have sounded like a clear winner in the article, but due to its immense history, it is the better choice of the two. The Submariner is almost a copy of the Sea-Dweller. You have so much more history and worth in the original Sea-Dweller. Although it does not have a cyclops, I still say to go with this watch.